“I don’t want to speak for you, that you’re making excuses for the bad doers,” the CNN host said. “So what do you want to leave with people? What is your message going forward?”

“I am not making excuses going forward. I’m giving an analysis that compounded injustice leads to anarchy and justice leads to peace,” Jackson answered. “I am fundamentally an advocate of non-violence but I understand how pain plays out when it’s compounded, and it is a long train of abuses.”